Johnny Pike: I will take a CZ 75 SHADOW any day, hands down.
BJ AMMO: Is incredible the diference bettwen CZ and TANFOGLIO power factor IPSC , I buy Tanfoglio STOCK III and sell CZ SHADOW, I think that make a mistake
Alphatrg22: Have you tried copper jacketed bullets. I find that in my SPO1, for the same bullet head weight and powder drop, my FPS for copper jacketed hollow points is higher than using Lead Round Nose. I will be trying the same JHP bullets with the Tanfoglio and will be checking them via chronograph - I am expecting the same results as the SP01.
BurnDuration: The velocity differences are from variations in the ammo loading: bullet weights, powder charge, and overall weight. Variations in MOA accuracy is due to the barrel and ammo. You could blame lead or copper build up, but not likely.
nathoi: no doubt...the cz sp01 shadow is the shooters choice at IPSC.in fact, this is the winningest pistol there.take note CZ pistols are copied by most european FA makers and that includes Tanfoglio.
Gerard Lee: they gave you a new barrel? so the barrel was the problem.. post a new video on it
leonardimas1: taht's right, be happy
cz75i: If you happen to compete in IPSC sanctioned matches like in production division, it makes alot of difference because even you will score all aphas in all courses of fire of the match but your pistol fails the chronograph test you will get zero score for the whole match & you will just be competing for fun. IPSC matches requires accuracy, power and speed. By the way, Tanfoglio replaced the barrel of my stock 3 and it now gives similar velocity as my CZs pistols and a tight grouping. I'm happy.
leonardimas1: you don't speak from the targeted precision,only the speed,but what you thing,30 or 40 fps make the difference??the precision is important,an the Tanfoglio you can adjust the visor for the side,the CZ75 can the not adjust the visor,little thing but must important when you wont a calibratet and good gun
Gun Basics Philippines: Great video! Very helpful data and appropriate comparison!
stone4bread: Is the barrel shorter on the TZ? What is causing the drop in velocity?
Alphatrg22: Great post! I have my eye on the TZ SIII. Lesson learned - break in the barrel of the TZ before using the same loads with the CZ. Thank you.
Stephen Aniceto: I also found out that the barrel of the Stock III needs a lot of FMJ for break-in. My Shadow is good to go out of the box. But I have my eyes set on the Stock II instead :)
cz75i: You made right decision in choosing the CZ Shadow, no doubt its an excellent pistol like my Shadow I have no complain against it. It shoots well and fit my hand perfectly. I maybe bias because most pistols I have are CZ (including CZ 75 IPSC Standard in .40 S&W) and they didn't gave me any problem in performance or mechanical wise. I tried the Stock III because it has good reviews from gun forum and endorsed by Eric Grauffel. And because it has the same feel and structure as the Shadow.
cazorp: Ok, after shooting my Shadow yesterday 25 meters with Magtech 9F (95 grains) grouping less than 2" on international precision target I am convinced this gun will support all my needs for precision, field shooting as well as IPSC production. I will test my friends Stock III with same ammo over cronograph to verify if we get deviation as you did, I'll reply back to you in that case.
cz75i: First, it registered lower velocity than my CZ75B and CZ75 Shadow using same reloading data and because of this, I failed to make the minimum Power Factor of 125 in 2 sanction level I match for production division. Second, I am disappointed with its grouping too many fliers compare with the CZ pistols. Maybe only this particular unit I purchased, is a lemon. But I am really disappointed with this pistol so I returned it with the above video copy. I hope Tanfoglio will do something about It.
cazorp: Thanks for sharing, I was considering the Stock III, but someone told me I should go for the original, so I bought SP-01 Shadow instead. Haven't really tested it out yet, but what is it that makes you dissapointed with the Stock III?
matt lirette: Tanfoglio barrels in general are slower then normal. I run a limited custom (.40) and a eric gold (.38 super) I receive the same problem as you when I create a new load (lower then normal velocities). I just bump up my powder charge to meet power factor. Don't loose faith yet :)
frasian78: wow, that was pretty fascinating. I wouldn't of expected that much a difference. thanks for posting.
Holiday: We don\t make alot, but our group do get to travel frequently. Just this year we went to Bangkok to get pictures and their holiday schedules. We are still in a growing phrase so best we can aim for is break even. I think everyone have to overcome the same type of challenge when starting something new. Don\t give up!
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